After subpar 1978 and 1979 seasons in which the Raiders failed to make the playoffs- primarily due to the retirement and departures of key contributors during the Super Bowl run in 1976 (most notably head coach John Madden, George Atkinson, Phil Villapiano, and Fred Biletnikoff - Stabler was traded to the Oilers for Dan Pastorini prior to the 1980 season, after a lengthy contract holdout. Stabler left the Raiders as their all-time leader in completions (1,486), passing yards (19,078), and touchdown passes (150). The Oilers, in turn, saw Stabler as the missing ingredient that could finally get them past the rival Steelers and into the Super Bowl. However Houston lacked the exceptional talent on offense that Stabler had thrived with in Oakland, as Earl Campbell and Casper- who was also acquired in a trade from the Raiders- were the few potent weapons they had. Meanwhile, Pastorini lost the starting job in Oakland to Jim Plunkett after an injury, and Plunkett then led the Raiders over Stabler and the Oilers in the playoffs. Bum Phillips was fired shortly after the season. Without the popular head coach that rejuvenated an otherwise woeful Houston franchise, Stabler had a mediocre season in 1981 but re-joined Bum Phillips by signing with the Saints in 1982. By this time, however, the 37-year-old Stabler was no longer in his prime and the Saints were also a dismal franchise. After 3 unsuccessful seasons that were plagued by injuries and a quarterback controversy with veteran Richard Todd, Stabler retired in the middle of the 1984 season.
Moving the Raider to San Antonio is like having your son join the military and go to Afghanistan. You'll still love your son but you probably aren't going to visit him. You will wait for him to come home.
That being said and will probably piss off some the way I characterized it, but the Raider Nation is similar to the Notre Dame Irish Nation. The fan base extends well beyond South Bend, it is all over the US and the world and so is the Raider Nation. The Raiders have always been in California and anywhere else just doesn't seem right. I doubt Texas can float three NFL teams. Even if you could get the votes and move the team...could you get the seats sold?
"Davis reportedly told city leadership that he prefers a "small, intimate" stadium over a "Jerry Jones-type facility," one that would allow him to place in front of the building "a statue of his father," late Raiders owner Al Davis".
I don't know what to make of that part of the article with Marc Sessler. It seems very superficial and damn near insulting to fans that have supported the Raiders all their lives.
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Im going to chime in here. I was born in SA and went to school till Soph yr. Played football in the Catholic league. A few things to consider. Football is King in Tex. Our football there was hands down better than anywhere else. I moved to Kansas in 77 and the baseball here was like football was there. They love their football in SA. SA is a big market. It was over 1.5 mil when I left, and because of tax policy, it has grown wild. There is a lot of money there. My dads old boss, who helped us buy our business in 77, Red Mccombs, has owned the Spurs twice, the Den Nuggets, and the Vikings until just a few years ago. He tried a few times to bring the NFL there. The city is an amazing supporter of pro teams. The Spurs are an example. There is no income tax in Tx. Do the math! Cal cant compete. I love my Spurs in black and silver. Same with DA RAIDAHS! I for one would love it.
Im not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
rawhead wrote: I hope not. Mark Davis is not the guy that can pull something like that off. But I do think he's a guy who can pull off playing as the "third" team in a small stadium in Texas.
Actually, the Alamodome is expandable to 72,000 seats. This would make it larger than Houston and give the Raiders the 11th largest stadium in the league. Currently, they are the second smallest. However, my bigger concern is the small TV market and that the Raiders would always be considered outsiders.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I think the Raiders could easily assimilate themselves in a smaller TV market being considered outsiders. That was the Raiders roots. I haven't kept up on revenue sharing in the NFL but viewing habits and "TV" markets have changed a lot in the past 10 years as have higher speed internet connections, increased server production and alternative viewing markets. The NFL, just like the music, movie, tv industries will have to figure a way to catch up. I think Texas is begging for a team like the Raiders.
Whosits wrote: Actually, the Alamodome is expandable to 72,000 seats. This would make it larger than Houston and give the Raiders the 11th largest stadium in the league. Currently, they are the second smallest. However, my bigger concern is the small TV market and that the Raiders would always be considered outsiders.
Report: San Antonio billionaire ready to invest to court Raiders
B.J. "Red" McCombs reportedly met with Raiders owner Mark Davis for 90 minutes during Davis' visit to San Antonio the weekend of July 18, and the Texas billionaire told the San Antonio Express-News he believes there is a "definite possibility" the Raiders relocate.
“I don't think it could have gone better,” McCombs told the newspaper on Wednesday, speaking of his meeting with Davis.
McCombs, who owned the Minnesota Vikings from 1998-2004, told the San Antonio Express-News that his family would buy into the franchise "if that's what it would take to get them here."
Red is a smart guy. My dad started selling cars for him in '61 and worked his way up to GM of the largest Ford store in TX. In 77 Red helped us buy a dealership in Ks. I read that he helped over 100 employees buy stores! Amazing. He owned several stores at one time. He owned the Spurs twice, the nuggets, and the Vikings when they had Moss and were winning. He has oil, banks, Cattle and a whole lot else. He started Clear Channel comm, and just that stock was worth half a billion. He has given hundreds of millions of dollars away, and is still worth 1.5 to 2 billion. He doesn't fail at much. He would make us a winner again. He once stole Larry Brown from Kansas Univ, and was quoted as saying something like, "I like pro sports because if you see a guy that can help you win, you just buy him" He is pretty old, but I wouldn't doubt that he has still got it. He just makes things happen.
Im not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde